autodidacticrobogirl: (Hmphf)
Kimiko Ross ([personal profile] autodidacticrobogirl) wrote2010-07-11 03:35 pm

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The U.S. standard railroad gauge is 4 feet, 8.5 inches.

[And now it's time to play the 'lets pretend that never happened' game!]

That's actually a pretty odd number to use. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England, and the U.S. railroads were built by English expatriates. The first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used. In addition, the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools that they used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing. So why did the wagons have that particular odd spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break on some of the old, long distance roads in England, because that's the spacing of the wheel ruts.

The first really long distance roads in Europe (and England) were built by Imperial Rome for their legions. The roads have been used ever since. The ruts in the roads, which everyone had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels, were first formed by Roman war chariots. Since the chariots were made for, or by, Imperial Rome, they were naturally all standard in the matter of wheel spacing. The U.S. standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches derives from the original specification for an Imperial Roman war chariot.

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There's a reason why I'm officially banned from philosophy conferences.
ntjstapwn: (Mm...)

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[personal profile] ntjstapwn 2010-07-11 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Interesting bit of trivia.

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes, it seems that beurocracies and specifications are the only truly immortal things.
ntjstapwn: (Heh)

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[personal profile] ntjstapwn 2010-07-11 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Buerocracies certainly seem to run like they can take as much time as they want.

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Ever try stopping one? It's ridiculous.
ntjstapwn: (Default)

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[personal profile] ntjstapwn 2010-07-11 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
No. They're a necessary evil; I just try to avoid them when possible.
thenotmagician: (Jawdrop)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-11 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
...What?

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Zeke. hi.

[Awkward pause]

Hi, Zeke.

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Uh.

[Fuck why are emotions so hard?]

How are. You?
thenotmagician: (Amused)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-12 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm great. Y'doin' better?
thenotmagician: (I am a sexy sexy man)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-12 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Welp, that's a good idea. Otherwise y'might go crazy. Too much vacation.
thenotmagician: (Amused)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-12 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
So, what'cha been keepin' busy with, eh?

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
How long have you been on the boat, Zeke?
thenotmagician: (Jawdrop)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-13 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Over a year, why?

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
And how old were you, when you got here?
thenotmagician: (having a drink)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-13 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
[SOB he hates talking about his age]

Twenty-seven. Y'goin' somewhere with this?

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. How tall were you, then?
thenotmagician: (are you serious)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-13 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
I... guess five foot eleven or somethin'. I dunno.
thenotmagician: (I glare at you)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-13 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Th'fuck am I supposed ta know that?

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Go measure yourself. I'll wait.

It's....Kind of....important.

[She's such a stalker.]
thenotmagician: (yeeeah sure)

[personal profile] thenotmagician 2010-07-13 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright, alright. I'll go do that.

[Zeke turns off the comm to find some way to measure himself. He's back in around 30 minutes]

Five foot eleven.

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-13 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. Thank you.

[click! Kim's easily distracted into rudeness, in case you hadn't found out, Zeke]

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[identity profile] lilyground.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
[... 6_9]

What?

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
[Sigh. Lily again]

People who are taught stupidly don't usually fix how stupid they are.

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[identity profile] lilyground.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh.

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Why not? Don't they know they're stupid?

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, they do. But there's a lot of them all being stupid together, so they can't stop until most of them decide to do so together.

But nobody's going to stop being stupid because they all think they're smarter than that. They're embarrassed to act intelligently, because they're afraid of looking stupid in front of the others.

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[identity profile] acosmiccastaway.livejournal.com 2010-07-11 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Alright, I'll bite. What's a railroad?

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's an outmoded form of bulk transportation. Big cars on wheels run along a rail, propelled by a coal-powered steam engine.

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[identity profile] acosmiccastaway.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Coal. [Wait, he knows this one. Give him a second.] Fossil fuel, right?

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[identity profile] acosmiccastaway.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Every civilization has to start somewhere, I guess.

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
That doesn't make it fine when those civilizations excuse self-destruction with their own ignorance as if "It was an accident!" means something.

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[identity profile] acosmiccastaway.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I can take solace in the knowledge that my civilization's self-destruction wasn't an accident then.

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Mine wasn't either. [both of them] Willful blindness isn't the same as actual blindness. Usually.

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[identity profile] acosmiccastaway.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
In the end, does it really matter? It's gone one way or another.

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
How do you want to die, Cale? Got a preference?

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
And the fact that you want to live a long time then die peacefully doesn't affect your opinion on civilizations that commit suicide?

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[identity profile] acosmiccastaway.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's not how a civilization died that matters. It's what people do to pick up the pieces afterward that matters. Some do it. Some don't. [Oh yes, he's bitter.]

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Extinction changes the path, but not the direction.

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[identity profile] acosmiccastaway.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
You've got that right.
booze: (don't waste my time)

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[personal profile] booze 2010-07-11 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You should be officially banned from any conference. Period.

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[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Social events are a waste of time, anyway.

Besides, the roboticists think they can do better.

[identity profile] teethofneedles.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
There's also a reason no one cares.

[identity profile] autodidacticone.livejournal.com 2010-07-12 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That you have no ambition isn't my problem.